might meet sometime at the American Society for Psychical Research, or have supper together in the city. I would be happy to do either at your convenience." I later met with Ullman. He turned out to be a fine fellow and we became friends. I then received a letter dated July 31 from Dr. John Wingate, who had investigated the problems that Ullman apparently didn’t know about -- or didn’t want to get into. "Dear Ingo: After further talk with Osis and Janet (separately) it would seem to me that much of the difficulty in conducting an experiment that Osis is willing to vouch for grows out of the lack of someone in charge of the procedure. Janet has often not been consulted in advance and yet Osis tells me she is in charge, but she says she has been given no authority. Everyone gets into the act in a free-wheeling way, and the critic could find loopholes. Dr. Osis is very afraid of criticism. "I hope you will agree that the time has come, preferably in August while Osis is away, for you and Janet and a couple of observers to conduct an experiment like the ones you have been undertaking on a `training session’ basis but with rigid controls. Janet is sure, and I am too, that you will perform fully as well and that then there will be no question about distributing the documented report along the lines you have suggested. "Janet is now working over the earlier experiments and I hope they will be ready for circulation early in the fall." Well, there it was. If you have difficulty in getting together the implications of the two letters I have just quoted in full, well, don’t worry too much.