One of the major topics concerned why psi research had not made more progress. I, of course, had a big mouth and felt in touch with some of the reasons. He agreed with Buell's crowd that the ASPR was a non-productive "cesspool," and thought I should seek other working arrangements where more expertise and technical support would be possible. I sort of giggled, making a comment that corporate America was not ready to get caught doing psychic research. I defended the ASPR, or at least the Osis-Mitchell experiments, pointing out their merits. One day (in late January, if I remember correctly), Buell called and asked me to visit her. She had something she wanted to discuss. This turned out to be the following. A small group of her high-placed friends had begun establishing a pool of money to help ME in my research. Already some $70,000 had been pledged from several sources. The larger goal was to collect a million or more and which Buell and the Bennitts said was entirely feasible. I was flabbergasted by this development. I'm sure that the ostensible donors had been prodded by Buell and perhaps Dr. Kinzel who seemed to be connected with everyone everywhere.