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six minutes as I got out of bed and went to the bathroom to empty my bladder. I slept very little, if at all, the rest of the night. During the next several weeks, the press of daily physical activity plus the eagerness and excitement in my anticipation kept me from another meeting. I had difficulty in getting into the required presleep. However carefully I approached the OOB release point after I did get relaxed, I couldn’t get into the OOB state. After repeated effort, I did no more than fall asleep. I realized I was forcing it too strongly, but it was hard to control. Finally, I gave up trying for the moment—and it happened easily. Time: 4:45 A.M. … awake and rested, although far past my usual cycle, I went into the unhook rollout, and moved easily into the second body state … moving out of the second was easy, and I reached for an ident to home in to … It was there! I held back my excitement, stayed calm … reached and stretched, following the signal. The feeling of movement was short and quick and I stopped. Before me was the shining form. Several others were behind it. Trying to remain calm and casual, I focused on the radiation that had been so distressing before. Now it was very tolerable—or I was getting used to it. (A little of both, Mister Monroe. We did modify it somewhat for you.) I had gone over many times how I would resume our communication, the questions I would ask, the order of priority in case the pattern was going to be broken off again suddenly. And the first one, the first one … (Your interest lay in our relationship with those in human experience prior to your departure to …) To go to the bathroom! What an incongruity! Well, this time I made absolutely sure it wouldn’t happen, no coffee, very little liquids … (Cause and effect, in which you place such great belief.) Belief relief! That’s a good one, I’ll have to remember it. But the other ones behind my friend, I don’t remember their … (As you have noted, there are others of us also here at this point. They have been present throughout our meeting. It is your ability to perceive that